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	<title>Comments on: Crank Alert: One Fan&#8217;s Interaction with ESPN</title>
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		<title>By: Michele Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michele Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comment, Ron.  I see this is your specialty!  It&#039;s nice to hear a supportive voice and you&#039;re right - I think ESPN and the NFL would be astounded to know the true numbers of female fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment, Ron.  I see this is your specialty!  It&#8217;s nice to hear a supportive voice and you&#8217;re right &#8211; I think ESPN and the NFL would be astounded to know the true numbers of female fans.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Petrovich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Petrovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right and you need to keep pushing to be included. My daughters are the same way. There are some men who don&#039;t think women should be involved in football, or say it&#039;s too complicated, but it&#039;s not. Ladies, if this happens, don&#039;t be intimidated because football is too much fun. 

The game needs to be inclusive. If nothing else, it&#039;s good business to bring more women into the sport, because of ticket and jersey sales, but it&#039;s also the right thing to do. 

Ron Petrovich  http://iamawomanandiknowfootball.com
Creator, I Am A Woman and I Know Football</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right and you need to keep pushing to be included. My daughters are the same way. There are some men who don&#8217;t think women should be involved in football, or say it&#8217;s too complicated, but it&#8217;s not. Ladies, if this happens, don&#8217;t be intimidated because football is too much fun. </p>
<p>The game needs to be inclusive. If nothing else, it&#8217;s good business to bring more women into the sport, because of ticket and jersey sales, but it&#8217;s also the right thing to do. </p>
<p>Ron Petrovich  <a href="http://iamawomanandiknowfootball.com" rel="nofollow">http://iamawomanandiknowfootball.com</a><br />
Creator, I Am A Woman and I Know Football</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do I make a comment about the woman who &quot;practically beg[ged]&quot; the survey &quot;man&quot; for a $5 survey chance in light of my LIFETIME comments? The temptation is so strong...and yet...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do I make a comment about the woman who &#8220;practically beg[ged]&#8221; the survey &#8220;man&#8221; for a $5 survey chance in light of my LIFETIME comments? The temptation is so strong&#8230;and yet&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michele Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michele Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, the plot thickens.  :-)  Great to hear your part of the story, Gennifer.  Interesting how this could have been prevented if, as Brett suggested, they give everyone a survey then weighted and analyzed the percentage on the QT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, the plot thickens.  <img src='http://www.wonderbranding.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Great to hear your part of the story, Gennifer.  Interesting how this could have been prevented if, as Brett suggested, they give everyone a survey then weighted and analyzed the percentage on the QT.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charity:

1. How you &quot;felt&quot; as an &quot;insignificant demographic&quot; is irrelevant to survey research. Your self-esteem is not the researcher&#039;s concern. It might be your therapist&#039;s, however.

2. I stand by my description of LIFETIME viewers as bitter Thelma and Louise wannabes with curlers in their hair covered by the turbie twist they bought during the commercial break of some man-hating movie that promotes in-bedroom involuntary castration.

3. If the event sucked, I imagine that those surveyed would have told them that.

4. A survey is done to turn a question into answer (to paraphrase the slogan of a polling firm I have worked with). It may be that they SHOULD have asked the question you raise, but that may not be the question THEY were seeking an answer to.

5. Paying for the respondent can create a sampling methodology problem if not weighted and adjusted properly. The incentive can skew the sample above and beyond the inherent skew that exists due to normal refusal rates. Also, if people could volunteer themselves to be surveyed rather than chosen under a methodology devised by the researcher, that too can bias the outcome.

6. The idea of watching baseball pitchers scratching their balls in 3-D could kill the concept&#039;s use in any sport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charity:</p>
<p>1. How you &#8220;felt&#8221; as an &#8220;insignificant demographic&#8221; is irrelevant to survey research. Your self-esteem is not the researcher&#8217;s concern. It might be your therapist&#8217;s, however.</p>
<p>2. I stand by my description of LIFETIME viewers as bitter Thelma and Louise wannabes with curlers in their hair covered by the turbie twist they bought during the commercial break of some man-hating movie that promotes in-bedroom involuntary castration.</p>
<p>3. If the event sucked, I imagine that those surveyed would have told them that.</p>
<p>4. A survey is done to turn a question into answer (to paraphrase the slogan of a polling firm I have worked with). It may be that they SHOULD have asked the question you raise, but that may not be the question THEY were seeking an answer to.</p>
<p>5. Paying for the respondent can create a sampling methodology problem if not weighted and adjusted properly. The incentive can skew the sample above and beyond the inherent skew that exists due to normal refusal rates. Also, if people could volunteer themselves to be surveyed rather than chosen under a methodology devised by the researcher, that too can bias the outcome.</p>
<p>6. The idea of watching baseball pitchers scratching their balls in 3-D could kill the concept&#8217;s use in any sport.</p>
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		<title>By: Gennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was also at the event with Charity and Andrew and I&#039;d like to add that I had to practically beg the survey man for a survey, although they asked everyone, men and women, how big of a football fan they were before handing out the survey. 

My problem is with this &quot;female quota.&quot; I heard some of the survey-givers mention this quota, but while standing in line to return my survey for my $5 reward, a woman asked for a survey and was denied. When she saw me standing in line to return one, she said, &quot;well she has one.&quot; The survey collector replied, &quot;I know, they aren&#039;t supposed to have them. It&#039;s a real problem.&quot; That leads me to believe that there was no female quota, women weren&#039;t supposed to get them period. How else would a large number of volunteers know when to stop giving them to women unless they were only allowed to personally hand out a set number to women.

Quota or not, I think that ESPN handled the situation poorly. I&#039;m sure they had enough surveys and $5 rewards for everyone in attendance, so why not just let women fill one out? If ESPN doesn&#039;t care about our opinions, what&#039;s the harm in letting us just take the survey? Or did they not want to hand over the $5? Why risk alienating the USC female population?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was also at the event with Charity and Andrew and I&#8217;d like to add that I had to practically beg the survey man for a survey, although they asked everyone, men and women, how big of a football fan they were before handing out the survey. </p>
<p>My problem is with this &#8220;female quota.&#8221; I heard some of the survey-givers mention this quota, but while standing in line to return my survey for my $5 reward, a woman asked for a survey and was denied. When she saw me standing in line to return one, she said, &#8220;well she has one.&#8221; The survey collector replied, &#8220;I know, they aren&#8217;t supposed to have them. It&#8217;s a real problem.&#8221; That leads me to believe that there was no female quota, women weren&#8217;t supposed to get them period. How else would a large number of volunteers know when to stop giving them to women unless they were only allowed to personally hand out a set number to women.</p>
<p>Quota or not, I think that ESPN handled the situation poorly. I&#8217;m sure they had enough surveys and $5 rewards for everyone in attendance, so why not just let women fill one out? If ESPN doesn&#8217;t care about our opinions, what&#8217;s the harm in letting us just take the survey? Or did they not want to hand over the $5? Why risk alienating the USC female population?</p>
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		<title>By: Michele Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michele Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I&#039;ve said before, Brett - you are definitely the illegitimate child of Don Rickles.  :-)

Charity - great insights on the event itself.  And you crack me up. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I&#8217;ve said before, Brett &#8211; you are definitely the illegitimate child of Don Rickles.  <img src='http://www.wonderbranding.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Charity &#8211; great insights on the event itself.  And you crack me up. <img src='http://www.wonderbranding.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Charity Tran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charity Tran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that Brett provides a number of great points to how, why, and improvements to ESPN&#039;s surveying (or my perception of their surveying perhaps, and I will ignore the &quot;Lifetime audience&quot; references), but I suppose in addition to feeling like an insignificant demographic as a woman, I also felt that the event itself didn&#039;t necessarily hold up to regular broadcast standards.  It was broadcast in a handful of locations, there were a number of families and students there to experience the game in 3-D, the &quot;commercials&quot; (except for one on the X-Games 3D) were Disney animated 3-D trailers.  

In an inaugural event, as a surveyor - in addition to my &quot;standard&quot; market - I&#039;d be interested in the motivation of everyone in attendance.  It&#039;s easy enough to par down a particular set of results from just the men only and do comparisons to women who may have felt the same or differently.  

Granted, they were also paying people $5 for a survey.  Maybe the women just got greedy.  Maybe I&#039;m just bitter I didn&#039;t get my $5.  J/K.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that Brett provides a number of great points to how, why, and improvements to ESPN&#8217;s surveying (or my perception of their surveying perhaps, and I will ignore the &#8220;Lifetime audience&#8221; references), but I suppose in addition to feeling like an insignificant demographic as a woman, I also felt that the event itself didn&#8217;t necessarily hold up to regular broadcast standards.  It was broadcast in a handful of locations, there were a number of families and students there to experience the game in 3-D, the &#8220;commercials&#8221; (except for one on the X-Games 3D) were Disney animated 3-D trailers.  </p>
<p>In an inaugural event, as a surveyor &#8211; in addition to my &#8220;standard&#8221; market &#8211; I&#8217;d be interested in the motivation of everyone in attendance.  It&#8217;s easy enough to par down a particular set of results from just the men only and do comparisons to women who may have felt the same or differently.  </p>
<p>Granted, they were also paying people $5 for a survey.  Maybe the women just got greedy.  Maybe I&#8217;m just bitter I didn&#8217;t get my $5.  J/K.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those were not sexist remarks. They were a fair and accurate representation of the bitter women who make up the viewership of the LIFETIME (and OXYGEN) networks...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those were not sexist remarks. They were a fair and accurate representation of the bitter women who make up the viewership of the LIFETIME (and OXYGEN) networks&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michele Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michele Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All excellent points, Brett.  That&#039;s why you the master of the voodoo that you do so well.  :-)  

And sexist remarks aside (haus fraus?  ay, ay ay), ESPN could use your wisdom on their marketing team. I still feel that the network could attract more female viewers (thus, more ad dollars) without having to change its messaging in the slightest. But that&#039;s a discussion for another post, not on this one with regard to surveys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All excellent points, Brett.  That&#8217;s why you the master of the voodoo that you do so well.  <img src='http://www.wonderbranding.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>And sexist remarks aside (haus fraus?  ay, ay ay), ESPN could use your wisdom on their marketing team. I still feel that the network could attract more female viewers (thus, more ad dollars) without having to change its messaging in the slightest. But that&#8217;s a discussion for another post, not on this one with regard to surveys.</p>
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